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Dragons: Myth, Memory, Or Missing History
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Imagine waking up to a push alert: “Dragons Confirmed.” Would we protect them, weaponize them, or argue about taxonomy while TikTok melts down? We invited creator Chris (aka GixxerChris) to nerd out with us on the ancient question that refuses to die: are dragons pure myth, or a distorted memory of real creatures we once knew too well?
We start with the cultural puzzle pieces that won’t sit quietly—why the Chinese zodiac crowns a dragon among living animals, why medieval manuscripts describe dragons as “now rare,” and why civilizations that never met still drew the same winged predator. From there, we pull the science thread: fossil guesswork, hippo-skull illusions, and T. rex forelimbs that echo ostrich anatomy. Could feathered theropods and giant prehistoric birds be the bones behind the legend? We parse the fantasy-faithful taxonomy—dragons, wyverns, wyrms, drakes—and ask whether those categories hint at real biodiversity hiding under one name.
Fire-breathing isn’t off-limits either. The bombardier beetle shows how chemistry can become heat and smoke, pushing “impossible” into “biologically adjacent.” That leads to the bigger question of intelligence and behavior. If elephants talk in infrasound and crows reason like seven-year-olds, why not a highly intelligent apex reptile or avian with pack tactics like wolves? Maybe retreat, not extinction, explains the long silence—habitats pushed to the margins or beyond the maps we trust.
We keep it grounded and fun with our favorite screen dragons—Smaug’s menace, House of the Dragon’s personality-rich behemoths, and the pure joy of Toothless—because pop culture shapes our ethics as much as our awe. Then we run the modern thought experiment: if dragons reappeared, do we default to fear and trophies, or build a playbook for coexistence—habitat protection, non-lethal study, and cultural respect? No spoilers: we have opinions.
Hit play for a fast, funny, and surprisingly thoughtful tour through lore, fossils, biology, and the messy human heart. If you love mythology, paleontology, or just want to argue wyvern versus dragon, this one’s for you. Subscribe, share with a dragon-lover, and drop us your hottest take: real creature, cultural symbol, or a bit of both?
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Before we begin today's episode, we would like to share a quick disclaimer. The views, opinions, and statements expressed by the hosts and guests on this podcast are their own personal views and are provided in their own capacity. All content is editorial, opinion-based, and intended for entertainment purposes only. Listener discretion is advised. So Kyle does his thing where as the countdown, you can see the countdown. And as soon as it gets to one, he'll say something to try to catch me off guard. Today I thought I heard queef. Is that right? Ceef nose. Nice.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, it's just complete random stuff. Exactly.
SPEAKER_02:And I don't know what I'm gonna say until it says like at least like two or three. I have no fucking clue what I'm gonna say. Love that.
SPEAKER_04:The one that really got me that one time was he just he just screamed vagina boob.
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SPEAKER_04:Um, all right. Welcome to a new episode of the Silly Goose Society. Today we're talking about a really exciting subject that we're all going to nerd out and flex on. Vagina boobs. Yeah. Sorry to say it's not vagina boobs, but next time. Next time. But we have a guest with us uh again this week, and we have Chris, who um I I've met through TikTok, and so he's decided to come and talk dragons with us today. So welcome to the show, Chris. Thank you so much for being here. Um thanks for having me. Yeah, do you want to introduce yourself to our audience and and talk about where people I'm well my name's Chris.
SPEAKER_06:Um I'm known on TikTok as Jixa Chris. Um that's probably about as far as my social media goes at the minute. Um, I'm from England, as you can probably tell. I'll let you say it.
SPEAKER_04:So yeah, um, Chris has a um uh a pretty good following on TikTok. He's um a pretty, pretty major creator, and uh his um his lives are very entertaining and um uh it's a really good community. I've become involved with um you know his Discord community and uh a great great group of um people that support you and and that I've become friends with and you know I've been able to become friends with Chris through that, and uh it's just um so if you um happen to see Jigser Chris on TikTok, please give him a follow. Thank you. And now on to dragons, right? Enough of that. Let's talk dragons. Let's get that shit out of here. So here's a question. Do you think dragons really existed or are they just mythological?
SPEAKER_06:I've been thinking about it for a little while, and is it only recently I've seen a I did have notes prepared, and I've recently got a new phone and the notes were on the old phone. But the thing that caught me that sort of got my eye was um the Chinese zodiac, how it's all real animals and one fictional one, a dragon. Um so that was like what I first started, and then something really interesting. Uh they were talking, I was looking into dinosaurs as well, because we've we've never had a uh a full dinosaur skeleton uh being discovered as just like bones, and then we make up what it we think it would look like or whatever. And with the T-Rex, they could never work out what these little arms were on the front, and then if you look at an ostrich skeleton, it's exactly the same. So it's like they think it might have been wings, and then they think that might have been the dragon sort of thing, and there's like a load of if it goes deep into that, but yeah, you can go real far into it.
SPEAKER_02:I'm in love right now because thank I know advice for you saying that because I thought it was the only fucking person that said that because I saw this, I think it was like on Instagram or t I saw it on one of them where someone was just like imagine how wrong we could be, and it showed a picture of a hippo, like a hippo skull. But it's like, what do you think this animal looks like? Yes, and they were like, Does you think it looks like this? And it looks like some monstrous creature out of Star Wars or something, but like it's a fucking hippo. Like, imagine how wrong we could be about a T-Rex or what some of the other animals we think are. Like, it blows my mind.
SPEAKER_06:100%. Do you know um the uh old thing with Cyclops? They thought Cyclops were a real thing. It's because they found an elephant skull. If you Google an elephant skull, it looks insane. It's got one big hole in the middle. Dead skull. Yeah, for the eye. They thought that was the eye, and yeah, yeah, that's exactly what you're saying. Yeah, the elephant skull, they were mistaken.
SPEAKER_02:I love it. I love it. If you said the thing about the T-Rex and I'm like, this would be so much fucking fun.
SPEAKER_06:Have you looked into that? Have you thought that?
SPEAKER_02:I I had to stop myself because it just, if I pulled on that thread too hard, I I would be locked up. I'd be institutionalized with a tinfoil hat. Like I sort of because I feel like a lot of us, specifically like in our generation or whatever, we are obsessed with dinosaurs. Thank you, Steven Spielberg. Um, so it's like, yeah, exactly. It's the best of both worlds. It's dragons, it's dinosaurs, it's that what if what could be trying to learn a little bit more. And like big giant freaking lizards. Like, come on.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, yeah. Well, there's a like, um, I'm not sure what it was. It was part of the notes I had. Um, I've got an image of it. I think it's like um an old encyclopedia or some sort of thing that documents uh whatever. And it inside it said like dragons, now very rare, da da da da, and like had an explanation of them. So it was like this old book, this old script that it was saying how rare dragons now are, but they were a real thing. And all the pictures you've got of people slaying dragons and fighting dragons, it just doesn't make any sense that you would put this much effort into something that wasn't real or you know that.
SPEAKER_02:I I never thought about it until you said it when we first started here. I right now, you blew my freaking mind, what was it, 45 seconds ago, about the Chinese zodiacs. Like, they wouldn't just put a fake uh creature there, like they're it very, very I don't know the word I want to use. I don't want to say I don't want to say like proper, like improper, but like they're not just gonna do it because it's cool, because they think their culture is very, very rude. Like dragons are an insanely sacred creature to their culture, and they wouldn't just put one there, oh, just because like the rest of them are all real animals.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_04:I think the thing that always got me is that if you look at just about every ancient civilization throughout the world, and these are civilizations that have been separated by thousands and thousands of years, they would never have had contact with each other. There are so many dragons and references to dragon-like creatures, whether they're, you know, drakes or you know, what whatever classification, but you know, the general big flying lizard um or you know, big flying dinosaur, however you want to classify it, are they in their culture. They we have cave drawings, we have you know old manuscripts, we have um just different depictions throughout time. That has to be real. There has to be something to it.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_04:That's what got me.
SPEAKER_06:They try and say it's um uh like a uh like a sign of power or something. The dragon meant something different, you know, but it it was that's just how they uh I don't and the question is why would they not want you to think they were real? Or you know, what's the what's the reason for covering it up if they are real?
SPEAKER_02:Let me see if I can find that video. Oh my god. You know what I'm talking about, and there's this other podcast that these guys there's this, I don't even know what the hell it is. It came across my TikTok the other day where it's this guy. I have never seen someone so passionate and so convinced going down the most insane rabbit hole of why dragons are real and like why the governments are hiding it and working so hard to bring this dragon back as like a it's insane. Like it to anyone else, it's gonna seem like the most batshit, insane, lock this person up forever.
SPEAKER_06:I find you have to be careful who you speak to this sort of stuff about it.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly, because like this I'm telling you, if it wasn't on if you saw someone just talking like this and like you didn't see on social media and you saw that it was like a a a podcast, that he was with a group of people having this conversation, you absolutely like if you saw someone talking like this in you know, like in public, you would cross the street and like detour around them, you would get away from them. This guy's talking so insane, but like it makes the most laughable sense.
SPEAKER_06:The thing is with what you're saying there, I think like it's uh you know what indoctrination is, but it's when you've heard something for since you were a child, you've grown up knowing that this isn't real, and you've never thought anything more of it, and you've never looked into it or had a conversation like this, to hear it in your 30s, mid-30s, whatever, to start for someone just to start saying, Oh, dragons are real, when you've believed, you know, it's ingrained in you that you know that these are are not real from from a you think this person's insane. That's what it is, just because all conspiracy theories, like a lot of stuff I look into, the beginning of it, it's because I think it's map. I think how does this person even how how but how do you believe this? And then I start looking into it. I hear their theories that I think, oh my god, that makes complete sense. And then you go into your own bit and then you think, Jesus, uh is I think they all start off, you know, it all starts off a bit sounds bit a bit crazy because it's just what we're we've been trained exactly, you know, to know.
SPEAKER_04:Well, and I and I always go back to uh too on that is that um people thought for years, I mean, that the mountain gorilla was a mythological creature. Um there were you know always sightings, and I don't I I want to say it wasn't until like the 1970s that they were able to actually find like a colony. I'm not sure what they call a troop, a colony. I'm not sure what a group of gorillas is called, but anyway, they finally found them and were able to finally study this previously kind of uh known but unknown, you know. Um so and like we were still discovering animals all the time. Um, so I think could this be a creature that existed in somehow either if you believe in natural selection or was hunted out of, you know, went into extinction from whatever force. Um I don't I don't see how it couldn't be real. Exactly.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly.
SPEAKER_02:I watched Godzilla like I know, I know this is real. I know this is real. I've seen the movie. The callback.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, no, complete I I think so, definitely. There's there's other theories that you can you can go even further that they're still around and it's like there's like I I look into uh the the sh the shape of the earth, you know, how big the the earth is and sort of stuff, and uh I've because I I went down the flat flat earth fit bit for a while again because I just thought it's so crazy how anyone could think that the earth is flat. So when I started looking into it, I got I know all the numbers like that. The earth is uh 25,000 miles in circumference, which means it has to drop uh every eight inches per mile squared. So every mile you go out would have to drop eight inches in order for it to be a circle. And then so if that was the case, if you go up um uh 1,000 meters in the air, like you should start being able to see curve at a thousand meters if that is, you know, if those are the uh dimensions, and then so there's this whole thing that I've been looking into that maybe there's more land or undiscovered land, and it's like this is where other things are, where there's more resources and stuff, because it doesn't like the shape of the earth, if it is it's i I can't work out whether it's flat or round because the dimensions don't work out, nothing works out, and I've gone so deep into it. Um, so yeah, there's like another theory about I don't know if about Antarctica, where like no one's allowed to go to Antarctica in the Antarctic Treaty, which every country, like including like North Korea, everybody signed it, all the countries that are heavy at war, they've all agreed not to go to this one place and it's not allowed to be um explored or whatever, and then you know, so that goes into the ice wall, and then like what's beyond that, and yeah, there's a whole the dragon thing, you will get lost in that if you go deep enough. It takes you into other conspiracy theories and they all tie into each other, and it's it's very odd.
SPEAKER_02:Isn't it wild that every conspiracy ties into the Nazis also? Isn't that wild? Yeah, I swear to God, no, it absolutely does. I swear to God, every fu and I swear to God, you dig deep enough. Every fucking conspiracy gets tied back to them almost like that.
SPEAKER_06:It's heavy, it's heavy with aliens, the the Nazis, you know. Every uh and you you know the Nazi symbol, that's like an actually meant to be like an alien symbol, and they took that from the you know, from it was like on a UFO or whatever, or that's that that was a like they're heavily tied in with UFOs and all that sort of stuff, and or building UFOs.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it was uh UFOs, anti-gravity, time travel, and Stargates. Those are like the biggest ones. That's it.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know what it's amazing how much time and effort they put into time travel? Like it's like a serious, like a serious thing. Like they must think is possible or nearly possible. They must have some sort of lead to be able to take them this seriously down onto it because they really go into time travel heavily.
SPEAKER_02:They were, you know, and they were it's like they were busy doing other shit at the time too, you know. It's like, why are we going to like divert resources from something else for this? Like, you know, it's just anywho, dragons. That's exactly what'll happen. You just start pulling on a thread and you fucking fall off, and there you go.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. I've heard that theory though, that um I and I can't think of what they call it. Um if it's I I I want to say like Tartaria, but I don't think that's right.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, no, go on.
SPEAKER_04:There was like this that land beyond, and that's where dragons come from. I mean, I've heard that theory that that there are tons of mythological um creatures that come from that area. There are tons of civilizations, ancient civilizations. You know, you can go even stretch it into alien theory that there is a part of the earth, like the earth is bigger than what we've been told. And it's because I think so. They're trying to hide all of this um this extra part of the earth that we're all of these creatures.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, when they say when you say extra earth, that's what they call them like extraterrestrial, because they come from the extra land, you know, or like when they say outer space, it's coming from the the outer space of Earth. Like if you carry them going out, you know, they're from the outer space, you know. That's what it, you know, alien, that's all that sort of stuff. But the the Tartarian, the Tartarian Empire, where um the Great Wall of China was actually built by the Tartarians. Like, if you look at the Great Wall of China and is it meant to be a defensive thing, so where all the um the archers would be sat is facing China, it's not facing the other way, it's actually built by and then that's a whole nother thing as well. But yeah, the Tartarians, I looked big into that as well. That they're in they were incredible. I think that I think it's Russia now, or it was it was a massive part of the what they were huge, the Tartarian Empire.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, all throughout there, pretty much all throughout what is I think what is Asia. Like they they rename because I think what didn't it like loosely translate into it? So it's like tart yes, like tartarian and whatever the hell it is, it all flips into you know, they just like cut a big chunk of it off, and that's where they just brought the name Asia from or something like that. Don't quote me on that. I'm nowhere near an expert on that. I just know that they're that's kind of what it is, that's where the roots are, whatever the hell.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah. That's it's that's all fascinating stuff.
SPEAKER_06:But yeah, to the Tartarians, they had a dragon on their flag. So I think that was that they they yeah, they and the yeah, you what you were saying there, Angela, they were they were big on dragons.
SPEAKER_01:Gee, I wonder where uh the Game of Thrones guy got the idea for the Targarons and the dragons.
SPEAKER_06:There you go.
SPEAKER_01:Just saying. Just saying, man. Right there, slapping you in the face.
SPEAKER_04:So here's a question. Um, when you close your eyes and you think of a dragon, what do you see? What kind of what dragon of a dragon?
SPEAKER_06:This is this this threw me the other day because I was looking at all the different types of dragons, and there's ones with two legs at the back, like a I think it's like the one in Moana or whatever, and then there's ones with four legs, there's ones with wings, there's uh there's different types of dragons. Um I seen an old video which was supposed to be a dragon. They can't they put it through an AI detector. This is like a really this was from far before AI. And it was a dragon, and it had no wings, it had four legs, and it was long, like a it looked like a uh skink. I don't know if you want it. It's like a snake with legs. Um an old black and white. Um so that's sort of what I got in my head, but I don't know. I want to think they had wings and stuff. I'm not I'm not sure. I think they did have wings, but I just I don't know, I don't know what to picture with the dragon to be honest.
SPEAKER_04:Kyle, what about you? What do you picture?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, see, that's that my brain just goes. If you say think of a dragon, I think of an actual dragon. Because yeah, like you said, there's and like you know, the indoctrination, anyone says dragon, you just think of you know, if you look at any type of a mythological looking lizard creature, you know, you oh, that's a dragon. That's a dragon, that's a dragon. But you know, like he had said, it goes, oh, there's the different, you know, there's okay, so there there's like four categories that gets broken down to. There's dragons, which is like what you I think is what's known as Western. I think they're just labeled Western dragons, or just dragons kind of would they have, you know, four legs, uh wings, the neck. Like think of like what like King Arthur and like the knights and the dragons. That's not that's not a gouget like England or the UK or anything like that. Not being that gag. Um then there's drapes, which are broken down to something that has just um four appendages, no wings. So whether it's two arms, two legs, four legs, four arms, doesn't matter, just four appendages, no wings. Worms are no arms, no legs. And then there's wyverns that are two appendages wings, whether it's two arms or two legs, but they have the wings, so it's how all that goes. So it's just picture a dragon. I think of a western dragon, a dragon dragon.
SPEAKER_06:And then it makes you think that the fact that there are a few different categories of dragons where there are different species of dragons, you know, like there are lizards, there's a uh a lizard that looks like a standard lizard, and then there's one that has wings that can and then it can glide. Exactly. So they look exactly the same, so they might be different species of dragons.
unknown:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, those are just the four like big species. Yeah, then there's the subspecies, which just gets freaking ridiculous. So like each one, so like technically a basilisk gets labeled under a drake because the basilisk has two legs and two arms, but it's feathered. Or slightly feathered, and it has like a beak, kind of like more like a bird, not just like a standard reptilian, but everything else about it is reptilian. So, and then it just goes, like I said, from there. It just it's like you said, if you grab that string and you pull hard enough, you get lost very fast. And I'm doing my absolute best not to ramble. Well, I'm just doing I'm working so hard.
SPEAKER_04:So I have a question. Something you said earlier has kind of sparked this. I'm gonna, even though I I wanna go on record that I staunchly believe dragons were real. Um so you were talking about like the Cyclops with the elephant elephant bones, right? Um, and how people, you know, just came across that were unfamiliar and so that. So here's the thing Do you think dragon myths or dragon in different cultures were just like ancient people coming across skeletal remains of like crocodiles or Komodo dragons or you know, like big whalebones, dinosaur fossils, and they had no Idea what a dinosaur was because you know they didn't have carbon dating, they didn't have the technology that you know we we've had. So do you think that they came across these fossilized bones or or some sort of um skeletal remains? They didn't know what the creature is, and it's kind of like us, even with the dinosaurs, you know, we imagine what they are and what they look like, but they just happen to imagine that these were dragons.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, but the thing is with that, we don't put dinosaurs on flags and we don't have like realistic depictions of humans battling with them and stuff, and like like I don't know, it seems a bit more and again on a zodiac, we wouldn't ever put a dinosaur in a category where it meant something because we're not sh we're not sure about, you know. It wouldn't Yeah. I don't think it would make sense to do that.
SPEAKER_02:And also, how would they have known if they flew or not if they didn't see them? That's that that's my smoking gun with that. I mean that that's incredibly plausible. That's that's very possible. They didn't know how to um, you know, just like the same thing goes, oh, we don't know what this bright light is and why it's doing this. It must be the gods, it's just a fucking rainstorm. Like they so is so yeah, they're it's definitely possible that they didn't know how to explain what it is, so they just kind of theorized what it was. But I think the thing is like if it's if it is the remains of it, how they knew that it flew.
SPEAKER_06:And like I said, like with the things that you know, there's books saying yeah, that they're now rare, and there's like a description of it, so it's uh it's sort of like they were there, you know.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I think I just wanted to argue the counterpoint because I can just picture somebody out there being like, you know, you know how people are.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, of course.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, well, actually, the reason you like a good short is because you don't know what you're reading for that. You know what? Get fire point back for how about that?
SPEAKER_06:Have you ever thought about um like the fire breathing part or what that might have been?
SPEAKER_04:Um, well, I'm really big into Game of Thrones, House of Dragons, so I want to believe that they breathe fire or had some sort of ability to do that. I also think it would be really cool for me to have a little dragon on my shoulder that would just spew fire and burn people that I don't like.
SPEAKER_02:Let him like burn people alive, just enough to like send them to the hospital. You know, they need a little extra needles for a couple of things.
SPEAKER_04:You're being a jerk, you get you get your eyebrow singed, you're being a jerk.
SPEAKER_02:A little warning fire before you go full Dracaris. I got it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Have you ever heard of um a bombardier beetle? Yes. And they they sp they spit like a sort of uh it's they've got two chemicals, and when they spit it out, it it's uh it burns, and it like you they they they do it on other insects, or you see them hit a tree and it'll fizz and smoke and stuff.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's like an acid kind of corrosive kind of whatever.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, yeah. And it comes out in like an extreme heat when it um so maybe it's something like that, you know? Something sort of like that sort of a chemical thing they had, and it was just, you know, maybe got a bit exaggerated into fire breathing, maybe, or because it smoked or and fizzled, maybe or whatever, like looked like it burned stuff.
SPEAKER_02:That's yeah. There's also but I I also like the theories and ideas is that, you know, like when it comes with like gods and monsters and shit we couldn't explain was that you know, it it could have been that they saw that they actually did see aliens. Like they were aliens from somewhere else, or it was there wasn't as you know, maybe their ships were designed, like they didn't know how to describe a flying saucer at the time, so they just said it was this giant serpent. Maybe it was a long ship, we don't fucking know. And it shot. You know, they saw it use guns or some type of weaponry, but they didn't know how to explain it, so it was this giant serpent that flew and shot fire. That's the only that's another quote unquote thing that could air quote make sense.
SPEAKER_06:That's sort of um I get that with like mistranslation with stuff that we have. But I when when again when we're talking about this stuff and we see like people with swords and then the dragon with their eyes and their teeth and the the detail of it, it just seems that it's you know, I get it when there's like highlighics and stuff, and there's like big people and small people, and it doesn't make sense, and they you know, like, or yeah, they're depicting things in different ways because they didn't know how to explain it along those sort of lines, but just with the dragons, I just I feel like there's too much detailed evidence to say any of this stuff, you know.
SPEAKER_02:Relatively newish too. Like it's like you said, it's not hieroglyphs, it's not before reading and writing, it's not just cave drawings. It's there's actual Anglo, you know, there's there's alphanumeric text depicting these.
SPEAKER_06:100%, exactly. Yeah, it's too detailed, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, like some of these stories are, you know, some some of these stories, like the Bible is older than, and we still have actual, you know, that's a whole other can of worms that we can get into, but the actual, like, you know, there's that can be dated that these tablets are from BC, and we have recollections of those. These are from you know, from the times of you know, AD. So technically when you're comparing 10,000 BC to six AD, that's a lot sooner, and there's there's still quote unquote um evidence, records, recollections, and however you want to describe it.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:That's why I think, yeah, but so what Angela was saying, maybe there's an angle that people could look at and say, Oh, do you not think it's a you know a skull and it was misrepresented, or do you not think it could have been yeah, um alien mothership, this, that, and the other? It's just yeah, there's too much detail for this. Yeah, it's not it's not ancient enough for it to be uh misconstrued. Yeah, I think.
SPEAKER_02:I got kind of a random question on that one as well, too. What would you say is your favorite dragon movie or movie that has it or or depiction of a dragon, movie, TV, in whatever form of media? I know my answer. For any and all. For any and all, so you can answer this as well.
SPEAKER_06:It's so difficult, but avatars just for the fun, it's just for imagine if that's what dragons were like and you could plug yourself in and become friends with one.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, the James Cameron avatar.
SPEAKER_06:Was it?
SPEAKER_02:With the blue people.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's pretty fucking cool. That's pretty sick. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:But just for that's just for riding on dragons, and that's a fantasy, but I don't I'm not sure about that one.
SPEAKER_04:Well, my favorite dragon in the whole wide world is Toothless outside of Train Your Dragon.
SPEAKER_02:Has to be. See, and Toothless is a Western dragon, and Night Fury is labeled as a Western dragon. He has uh four legs, wings, half a tail.
SPEAKER_04:Listen, when they did the live action, How to Train Your Dragon, I still haven't seen it yet.
SPEAKER_02:Still haven't watched it. We still haven't watched it.
SPEAKER_04:I just I really need Toothless to be real. I really need and I need this in my life. I need it so bad.
SPEAKER_02:The music's playing in my head right now.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. I think my other favorite dragons are, you know, just the dragons that are in um uh oh my god, my brain. My brain just completely emptied. Um the House of Dragon show with the um the you know the Game of Thrones um kind of spinoff.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah, they're huge.
SPEAKER_04:The dragons in that in in Game of Thrones and in, you know, the House of Dragon show, they're just so beautiful. And and I love how they show them like having kind of their own personalities and how you have to connect with them and just it it it just the whole lore that they have of those dragons. I I wish I wish they were real.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_05:I kind of really think of many dragon wheels. Now I'm trying to think of it, I can't think of many.
SPEAKER_02:It's gotta be the ones where it's it's I mean it's kind of the given, but any of the ones from Tolkien, I just love just anything from Lord of the Rings from Tolkien, period. Um I definitely think uh oh god, what's his name? Um Anko Enkal Ankaligon, I think was his name.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:He's in the the Silmarillion. He's in the Silmarillion. Um let's put it this way. He was so goddamn big, he could have used one of the dragons from House of Dragons to pick Smaug out of his teeth. That's how big this fucking dragon is. He's huge, but like, I mean, yeah, but smog was just awesome. Genuinely, I feel a movie that has to do about dragons that I think is slept on unbelievable, is Rain of Fire. I love that goddamn movie. I actually just watched it like last week.
SPEAKER_04:Right. I've never seen that.
SPEAKER_06:No, I've never seen that.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, it's so it's so fucking cool. It's um what the hell is it?
SPEAKER_04:Um And is it like rain as in R-A-I-N-I-N or R-I?
SPEAKER_02:R-E-I? Rain over the R-E-I.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Yeah, it's because the dragons rain over some sort of soap. Oh, it's R-E-I-G. Yeah. I I'm very illiterate. I don't know how to spell it. I just know it's not the water rain.
SPEAKER_06:I got lucky with that one, to be honest.
SPEAKER_02:It's not the water rain. Once again, I feel kind of like a dick. Not a jab at the UK, it's just where the movie takes place. Um it's uh Christi Christian Bale. So it's the kid, his mom is like a minor or some shit like that. And so they find some fucking thing. Well, there's a dragon sleeping like under London, and they wake the dragon up, and then boom, he comes back, and like, and the next thing you know, they just he like wakes up the rest of the dragons, and dragons take over the world. So it's like a post-apocalyptic. Christian Bale and Gerard Butler team up with Matthew McConaughey to kill dragons.
SPEAKER_04:That's probably why I haven't seen it, because I don't like Matthew McConaughey.
SPEAKER_02:Just watch it, you'll like it. No. Listen, just watch it. Take context, take context of what I do of what you said and how you feel towards him, and why I'm saying, watch it. You will really like it. Specifically one scene. Without spoiling anything. Yeah, yeah, go for it.
SPEAKER_04:So so uh this was years ago, and they were doing um uh Willie Nelson puts on these concerts in America called um FarmAid, and all the proceeds go to help farmers and um you know in America. And so FarmAid was coming to Pittsburgh, and I threw some connections, somebody was like, Hey, uh, do you want to go work security? And you could go like backstage, and you know, I was like, Oh, cool. It'd be a tale, right? So, long story short, they end up putting me um right outside of Willie Nelson's tour bus to keep people out. You know, like you had to have a special badge and pass to get in this area. And um, so anyway, you know, throughout the night, throughout the the day and and evening, people were coming through to meet Willie Nelson and or go on his bus to get toasted with him. Um and side note, every time that door opened, smoke billowed out of like I got second, and no, legitly, I got secondhand um, a secondhand buzz from having to stand outside the door. Um, so anyway, Matthew McConaughey comes through, right? And he literally looked like he woke up out of like he crawled out from under a rock. He looked like he hadn't bathed in two weeks. He was all like scraggly, he didn't have the right passes. He he I could not recognize him as Matthew McConaughey. And so I'm like, sir, you don't have the bad, you know, the right badge. You have to leave. And he's like, No, I'm just gonna go on the bus, and I'm not like, no, you're not. I'm gonna call and have you escorted out. You need to leave. And so anyway, we had this back and forth exchange, and he's like very rude and he's yelling and blah, blah, blah. So he leaves, right? And then a couple hours later, he comes back, he's clean shaven, he's like dressed differently, and I could tell 100% it was Matthew McConaughey. Um, he has some little uh twink with him, and um so and he has the right badge and everything, and he's just being a dick about having the right badge. And I'm like, Yeah, you go ahead. You can you can knock on, you have the right badge, you can knock to see if they want to let you in. So anyway, he goes in and a few minutes later, um, Willie Nelson's manager comes out and he's like, he's like, he was laughing. He was like, Boy, you really pissed him off. He's he's trying to get you fired. And I'm like, Well, jokes on him, he can't fire me. You all didn't hire me, the venue hired me. And he's like, Yeah, no. He was like, but you you did the right thing. I just want to let you know that you know you you absolutely did the right thing and he didn't have the right stuff, so you know, don't worry about it. But he was laughing about how mad he was because I kept turning. And I've just never I've never been able to get over that. I like he was so mean and rude.
SPEAKER_05:Well, well, Dick, for trying to get you fired.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah. For literally just doing your job.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, like what a man in that position who's he was like doing well is like, what are you trying to do to somebody? Somebody's at work.
SPEAKER_02:Like, get the fuck out. Like, I mean, I've seen videos of like some of the musicians that I like that that I was um I think one of the the more famous ones is the uh um the lead singer from the band uh Lamb of God. So like, yeah, maybe not everyone knows what he looks like, but to like that community, anyone who listens to them, like, you know, he's he's pretty recognizable. Um it's kind of the same thing. He was just like heading to like this, you know, he was heading to the stage to get ready to like for his set. And his lanyard was like in his shirt, and the ladies of careers like stopped him, and he was just like, huh? What it goes, no, it's like we're next, what are you talking about? And he was just like, I was like, oh shit. My so he like he pulled his badge out and she was so apologetic, just no, no, you shit, thank you for like doing your job. Like he was he was incredibly like kind and sweet about it, and like thin thing thing, and then like it kind of like blew up in this whole other stuff that like he tried like hiring her for like their road crew and all this other shit, and like just all this awesome stuff, like you know, they went and they did because he was like, No, you're doing your job. Like, thank you. Are you kidding me?
SPEAKER_06:That's how I had to deal with those situations. Well, that's the yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, he's uh everyone else was so cool, you know. Like I met so many people, and you know, we were not, we were told, you know, you can't interact with them, you're just there. You know, you if anyone, you know, famous or something, you're not really supposed to interact unless it's business, you know.
SPEAKER_02:Um my god, kind of got a picture, blah, blah, blah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, but everyone was so was so nice. Um, like Neil Young, uh, his bus was right there, Wayland Jennings. They kept bringing me like apples and and sodas, and because I was there like for 16 hours. And um, yeah, they were so nice, so incredibly sweet. Um, and everyone, the only other person that I saw kind of throw a fit was Leanne Womack, but she was mad and she was backstage screaming and yelling. That was interesting. But everyone else that came through to to meet Willie Nelson was was really was really kind. And they were even in better spirits once they left the bus. Yeah, it was funny because he was supposed to go on his set, and um it was like VH1 at the time that they were like producing the concert and recording it and all that. And Willinix was supposed to go on, and his manager came off and said, Listen, Willie just hit the bong. You're gonna have to give him 15 minutes. He will be on stage in 15 minutes.
SPEAKER_03:I was dying.
SPEAKER_04:I was like, oh, that's great. That's great.
SPEAKER_02:I'll just put this picture. Like, it's everyone knows it's Willie Nelson, but Willie Nelson's like a thousand years old. He probably he probably wrote some of the original stories about dragons for crime alone. Like, he's fucking old, man.
SPEAKER_04:Toward the end of the night, he came out and he was like, I was like lean, there were some stairs, and I was kind of like leaning on the the railing, and he came out and he was leaning too, and he was just looked at me, he was like, Girl, you've got to be so tired. He said, I've seen you here all day, and you've you've not wavered or like you've stood here for 16 hours. He was just like, you've got to be tired. I'm like, yeah. And after I have to wrap up here, I have to drive like an hour back home. And he was like, Oh my god, he was so sweet. I'm sure right, but fuck McConaughey. Fuck him.
SPEAKER_06:I get it now.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I don't, I don't know.
SPEAKER_06:You can you can't miss out on the dragon movie for that.
SPEAKER_02:No, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, you're gonna love it. I promise you, you're gonna love it.
SPEAKER_04:Right in and yeah, he's he's got some roles in movies that I've seen that I think he's he's talented. Um, but God, I just have not been able to let that let that go. No, no, no, you got yeah, you could be counting douchebag. I'm a chorus, I hold a grudge.
SPEAKER_02:Oh god, you're one of those. That's right. Look, I'm sorry I did, sorry I said that. I'm a Pisces. No, you're a cunt, Becky. There's a difference. You're a fucking cunt. There's a difference.
SPEAKER_04:God anyway, dragons.
SPEAKER_02:Anywho, dragons. Yes. Watch that movie. It's fantastic. I freaking love it.
SPEAKER_04:Nice. I will put it on my to be watched list.
SPEAKER_05:Good, goddamn it. She's not gonna watch it. No, she's she's probably not. She's absolutely not.
SPEAKER_04:No, I will. I I I I love Christian Bale. So you had me at Christian Bale.
SPEAKER_02:That's true. And Gerard Butler, very young Gerard Butler. 300 Gerard Butler.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It's like one of his first movies. I think I think he even did it before Phantom. This movie came out in like 2003, 200 like four.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, Gerard Butler. Okay, you had me, definitely you had me at Gerard Butler.
SPEAKER_02:That man's the shit.
SPEAKER_06:Just quickly off topic. Have you seen um oh what's the film called? My god, what's the film called with Gerald Butler? And is they come in and the two burglars at the beginning of the film and he goes to jail? Um oh my god.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, uh Law-abiding citizen. Yes.
SPEAKER_06:That's what that's one of my favorite films. That's my top, like fight in my top five. I love I absolutely love that film.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's a good, that's good. So good. I love that guy. People give that movie shit. I think that movie is the shit. I was about to say, No, I think I'm if it's a Jamar Butler movie, there's a very high possibility I've seen. There's a very high possibility.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, yeah. But yeah, dragons, where were we?
SPEAKER_02:Um, let's see, McConaughey, dragon movies. Um, what do you think okay, what do you guys think would happen to the world if it was just like dragons pulled a wakanda and we were like, we've been here the whole time, and we're still here. We are now back.
SPEAKER_06:I hope people I I don't know if humans would want to hunt them or kill them or take it as a threat. I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_02:Let's face it, they're absolutely going to see them as a threat. Even if they're like even if they're like the size of Toothless, which is like what, like the size of like a minivan, that's a massive threat.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I I think that if dragons still exist the and and they have the ability to stay cloaked, they should stay cloaked. Because i the the nature of humans is can be quite um destructive and violent toward things they are afraid of. Yeah. I mean, could you imagine? Like people, you know, there's gonna be game hunters that would want to, you know, kill one just for the sake of killing one, you know.
SPEAKER_06:You know, a tooth or something is yeah, right.
SPEAKER_02:And and their skin, you know, uh it's a- Can you imagine all the videos that would be going viral of people wildly failing at trying to kill a dragon toast? God yeah, that's all that. Yeah, are you kidding me? That's I I would pay, I'd pay people. I would pay money and go to a movie theater to fucking watch that. Like, oh, let's watch these jackasses that they're gonna sneak up on these wyverns here. Yeah, they're pack hunters, you dumb bitch. There's velociraptors that can fly, and they just get mown down. Oh God. Yeah. I'm hard just thinking about it.
SPEAKER_05:Jesus. Yeah, they would be, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So if so here's a okay, going on that, if they are able to be in a hidden land and they're able have been able to exist, do you think they have a certain level of sentience then to be able to? To know that they needed to stay hidden?
SPEAKER_02:That's tough because we see them as like animals. They're creatures, they're animals. And any of the ones that are seen to I mean, look, Lord of the Rings, like it talks. You know what I mean? So like obviously that one's gonna have intelligence, but you know, it's kind it's kind of difficult to that's a difficult one.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:It is. You don't know if there's like extra lands, like we were saying, and other people who, you know, talk to us the 1% of the 1%, and there's an agreement that they don't come to us, we don't go to them or whatever, you know.
SPEAKER_04:I'd like to think that they have at least maybe on the level of like killer whales and dolphins, you know, the those type of or like apes and you know, there there's a certain level of even like with elephants, there's like a s they they're finding out there's like this certain level of sentience that that would be a lot of. Yeah, and how they communicate that, you know, and how they um how they just behave and they they tend to understand um human interaction. Like, you know, there've been stories where you know a dolphin's mate is caught in a fishing line and they will seek out humans to help, you know, to go.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And so they have they have to have a certain level of intelligence, of sentience, to understand this creature over here, we're typically fearful of, but but there are some that are helpful and we need to get them to help, you know. My my in my situation.
SPEAKER_00:We're looking at you, Gerald.
SPEAKER_06:And like animals, like uh we're only just discovering like how uh able they are of communicating, like like mere mere cats, they've um put their calls, the little noises they make, they ran it through an AI thing and recorded them over a period of a week or whatever. And they found out that telling the other meer cats that there's a predator coming, a coyote come in, and down to the size of it, the colour, whether it's male or female, like all these calls mean something. So they're they're talking to each other quite literally saying, Oh, there's a male come in medium size or young or whatever, like uh you know, they're fully communicating. That's fucking wild. Yeah, it's crazy.
SPEAKER_04:And like elephants will talk to each other in a frequency that we can't hear.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, I think they all do they're all telet telepathically. Like you see wolves when they're pack hunting and stuff, all these pack hunters had like they're so coordinated, it's unbelievable.
SPEAKER_02:That is some of the that is some of the most insane shit you'll ever is dude, like an actual, like a legitimate pack. Not just like a hunting pack or like a hunting party, but like a legit like pack of wolves. I'm talking like well over a dozen, almost two dozen wolves, and just how they move and how they locate, relocate, and communicate with one another, and you see the difference. They all go, you know, they they all know how to just like talk in single file and then separate from one another, and like everyone always thinks that the wolf that's way the hell out in front is like the alpha and the leader, but then there's all the different things like no, that's like the really old or like the really sick, or like the slowest and the weakest ones, and like all the they're like running they're like running security in the back or whatever. It's like, dude, it's fucking not doing a whole episode just on fucking wolves at that point.
SPEAKER_06:No, that's that's why you're saying that's got the way they run their packs. So if you look at it from a bird's eye view when they're walking, so yeah, at the front is the one below the alpha is at the at the front. Behind him is the alpha, behind them is like the women and children, and then is a sick one, and then there's another strong one at the back, so the alpha can keep an eye on all of them. So you've got the strong one, still a strong one at the front, and like yeah, the way they organize themselves is crazy, and they all do it.
SPEAKER_02:And they literally they like know when the ones that are working like side security are like tired and have to like rotate out with one of the ones that I swear it's fucking nuts. Literally switch them out. So the one who's like fifth in line, he'll rotate out to do side security, and the one from side security will then take their spot. It's mind-noming because it's incredible. They're animals, like, how do they do that? Imagine if dragons did that, right?
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, well, you don't well, all pack guns, that's what it is. But like they say, like when the when there was a meteor strike, and most of the things that survived it were birds, and when the birds came down, they didn't need to fly anymore because they're no predators, which is like were ostriches and stuff, that's why they got their wings, the legs got bigger and fatter, their wings got shorter, the bodies got bigger, they started like almost evolving to just to live on land. Birds were actually like insane hunters, like the like the big birds back in the day, like they were the birds were huge, they know dinosaur like birds, and they say like they could kill a wolf with like one one strike with the beak, and it would kill a wolf sort of thing, a bit like one of these giant birds. But when this meteor strike happened or whatever, and birds started being like land-dwelling things, even though they were stronger than wolves and whatever, because wolves were pack hunters, they could take them all down. That's why they like most of this stuff became distinct because because of wolves like like working as packs, and they were like from back then they were messing everything up, you know.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my god, were the giant birds from ancient times? Are those the dragons?
SPEAKER_06:But maybe, maybe, exactly.
SPEAKER_02:Like they said, raptor means bird of prey. So that's what the biggest is. And like I said, with the ostrich. Oh my god, we just started our own.
SPEAKER_00:Ah my brain, it hurts.
SPEAKER_06:So the ostrich skeleton with the little arms at the front, the T-Rex, yeah, it all ties in like that.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Well, I was thinking, uh, you know, and speaking of birds, you know, look at the intelligence level of a raven and a crow.
SPEAKER_06:Crow is a seven-year-old child.
SPEAKER_04:So intelligent. So I think if we have things like that now that have that level of intelligence, dragons had to be fairly intelligent, I would think.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe they're so fucking smart, that's what it is. They kind of just pull those. Yeah, so there is some massive island, say half the size but not the full size of Australia, just floating in the middle, well, not floating, it's just in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. And that's just where they live, where like all the monsters and the aliens and the cryptids, all they all those that's where all those creatures live. And the dragons are kind of there, and they're just like, okay, here's what it is. It's like the same agreement I have with spiders. You have a job, it's important, you do your thing, you stay where you are, we'll stay where we are, no problems. You come over to our area, you're barbecued, we go over to your area. Nothing's really gonna happen on our spot, you know? Like, we'll stay over here if you guys stay over there. How about that?
SPEAKER_04:But do you feel the same way about millipedes?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, don't start. Come on. Fuck those guys, man. They have no, they have they have they have no use. They have no fucking use.
SPEAKER_06:Do you have earwigs over there?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, don't get me start on those little cocksuckers. Those little pincher bugs. I hate those little bastards. I swear to God, like, there was like an infestation in my state last year. Anywhere you, they were just everywhere. You could just be like at the playground. And, you know, what are like my daughter goes to like she like you know, there was like a rock in like the middle of the playground. She just like moved, you know, it's like, oh, the rock is in my way. Let me kick it out of my way. And there was like seven of them. Like, and I was like, Where can you all fuck off back to hell where you came from? What do you do? Never in my life have okay, the spiders you can any other insect for the most part, you can make like they do this. In this head, they contribute to society. Earwigs, wasps, hornets, yellow jackets. The most asshole ones, they contribute nothing. Why are they still here?
SPEAKER_03:Don't matter.
SPEAKER_04:Keep you in check.
SPEAKER_06:One thing about moving to Spain is the bugs, because in England we have no insects. Like, I know in the States you struggle with it, and like but England just has no insects, really, it's not that bad. In the summer, in the summer, you get a few, you know, this and that. But Jesus, over here, when you move to a hot country, the the insects are insane.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, I'm gonna also say this one about the fucking UK. I will say this one, yeah, cool. You guys got to this, that, and your thing, sort of so forth. Do you have any idea how much of a pain in the ass it is to travel my fucking dog because of that goddamn country? I'm just gonna go ahead and say, I'm already wired up right now. What happened? Well, look, okay, good for the UK. Fantastic, they're finally getting it together. They have apparently they have eradicated rabies from the island. Like, rabies is not a thing and it hasn't been a thing for like however long, and so on and so forth. So I have um I have a service dog, and my wife and I we were traveling uh a few years ago to be used to traveling abroad, and we were like, okay, when we were doing that was right towards the beginning of us um first getting her. And so I wasn't a hundred percent planning on taking her on our honeymoon to fucking Greece, because why? Um, but still, even though technically that's like you know, having a service dog and the laws to the the some of the rules and laws that we have here in the states about service dogs, they're acknowledged and respected at a lot of other countries around the world. Which is pretty dope. They're not the exact same, but you're still allowed your service dog in some of them, and whatnot. But even if you're just even though the UK wasn't my final destination, there needed to be like a pre-approved place that like there had to be all sorts of like paperwork and filings and yada yada between the UK and the US where like they had like approved places for my dog to quarantine for like 10 days or like two weeks, even though I was not leaving the freaking airport. Like, I was just it was a layover was in the UK, our final destination was Greece. It was like, no, your dog has to quarantine for two weeks before and all this other stuff, and this, that, and the other thing. It goes, if you are touching British soil, it it counts. Doesn't matter, doesn't matter if you're just going from the plane from there to the next one. If you are touching down on our land, you have all this stuff you have to do. And I'm like, you know what? Fuck that. I probably wasn't gonna travel there anyway because that just sounds like a fucking hassle, honestly, traveling that far with a dog. But um, that's just really fucking inconvenient.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, it is, yeah, it's bullshit. I know. I had to uh smuggle my snake to Spain because they would want to quarantine it.
SPEAKER_02:That means two things, but okay.
SPEAKER_06:You're as bad as the the girls.
SPEAKER_02:If I if I listen, if I if I speak a shot, I'm gonna take it.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, yeah. If I step you up.
SPEAKER_02:If you set them up, I'm gonna knock them down.
SPEAKER_04:So, in other words, like the UK is your Matthew McConaughey.
SPEAKER_06:I don't blame them.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, me?
SPEAKER_02:Oh no, that's France. Hands down, it's France. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm with you. Yeah. Fuck France, man. Yes. Fuck France.
SPEAKER_06:Fuck France. I hate France.
SPEAKER_04:Thank God we don't have any listeners from France yet.
SPEAKER_05:Bonjour. We don't fucking need them.
SPEAKER_00:Assholes. Swear to God.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, they're I always picture that culture as like very pretentious.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, they got a word for that now. It's called cunt. I swear to god, I swear to god, man. They start all the fucking problems. Blame them on Germany, and then we gotta fucking fish them out. And I'm not just talking about the world wars. Literally every conflict that they've ever started that's gone bigger than their own country, they picked the fight, the other people start kicking the shit out of them. We gotta go in and save their asses, or someone else has to go in and save their asses, and then they get all the fucking credit and then they shit on us anyway. Fuck France.
SPEAKER_06:I digress. That's a whole nother pod that's a whole other podcast.
SPEAKER_04:But here's the question: Does France have dragon lore?
SPEAKER_00:I don't give a shit what they got.
SPEAKER_06:I bet they don't.
SPEAKER_00:I bet you they don't. They just need to do that.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, you know what? They they really don't. They have a little bit of lore. I just looked it up. They have a little bit of lore. Uh I cannot even pronounce what they call them. But uh for the most part, they do not lean into dragon lore.
SPEAKER_06:So they worship earwigs.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly. Worship earwigs. Earwigs and a fucking Austrian pastry item that they somehow get all the credit for because they pronounce it like a bunch of.
SPEAKER_04:It's so weird. Okay, so their dragon, the ones that they have depicted from France, have six legs, a turtle-like armored back, a lion's head, a scorpion tail, and a dragon body. That's their dragon. Of course, it's gonna be weird.
SPEAKER_00:They can't come up with their own shit. They're gonna take a look from everybody else and say, No, it's not. It's a goddamn abomination. You took the cool shit.
SPEAKER_06:The head of a croissant.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly.
SPEAKER_03:The fucking croissant, and it's got a baguette of its ass, and those fucking bitch ass little fucking cigarette holders and a beret.
SPEAKER_00:Fuck France. Jesus Christ, man.
SPEAKER_06:Asking you for a cigarette.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. If you get in, but you don't have to laugh. You take the no one.
SPEAKER_02:Fuck off. I think we triggers talk about France. Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, this is not the what triggers you episode.
SPEAKER_02:We drag an episode, but here I am, raising my blood pressure.
SPEAKER_04:Have a good therapy session.
SPEAKER_02:I'm gonna have a fantastic therapy. So I'm gonna go in early. I think okay, can we can we pull a three a day? I'll just come over now.
SPEAKER_06:You should put at least like uh seven, eight minutes aside per podcast just to talk about how much you hate France. Let's go.
SPEAKER_02:But then they'll say the seal. What about the siod? They can get fucked too. Oh god. It sucks because like the past like 15 minutes is gonna get cut from the episode because like it has nothing to do with dragons. It's just my burning hatred for brothers.
SPEAKER_04:No, it'll get it'll stay. It was inter it was entertaining.
SPEAKER_05:I really hope there aren't many French listeners.
SPEAKER_04:No, I think that's like one of the countries we have never had a hit in. We've we've hit just about everywhere around France, but no French. Yeah, we don't know.
SPEAKER_02:No, they're not gonna give a shit. My wife's French Canadian. Okay, we're cool. And all her family. So it's like I said, that I don't know why it's French, but because they're they're fucking cunts. That's why. It's like I don't know why French is first, because they're much more never met like a French Canadian. They're much more Canadian than French.
SPEAKER_04:No, I'm looking at our stats right now. Uh no, France is not even no, we've never had a hit from France.
SPEAKER_05:Good. Yeah, no, I know French Canadians, they're completely different, they're fine. I don't even look at them as French people.
SPEAKER_02:They don't, they're Canadians. They're lovely. Yeah. Until they give him a fucking hockey stick. You think now just to fuck with us, I think Chris is gonna go all the way to he's literally gonna just torture himself just for just for the bit. He's gonna go to France and like listen to like one episode in France so we get the hit for France. And just so it now like it now bleeds into there, we start blowing up in France. Drive across the border quickly. Exactly. Exactly. Jesus Christ. Imagine if that's where the dragon tower is fucking France. I'd be so pissed. I'd be so pissed.
SPEAKER_04:That's the dragon Waconda, France. Dragon Waconda. I'm just picturing all the dragon nose croissants.
SPEAKER_00:Dragon nose croissants through the button of each. They're all French. I'm just picturing smog.
SPEAKER_02:I'm just picturing Benedict Coverbatch with a shitty French accent trying to do smog now on the Lord of the Ring.
SPEAKER_00:I'm trying to think of some of the other shit. We'll get all right down.
SPEAKER_02:I'm completely unhinged. I apologize.
SPEAKER_04:Chris, this is how it is. We we start with one topic and we end completely somewhere else.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. Quite opposites, yeah. Dragons and hating France. It's a good podcast, to be honest. I'd listen to that.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, it's like it just they go hand in hand. Dragons are awesome. Hating France is awesome because France is not awesome. That's there's the connection. There's the bridge.
SPEAKER_04:So, Chris, thinking going back to uh your snake, it would now that you're back.
SPEAKER_00:Now that you're that's a hell of a segue. That's a hell of a segue.
SPEAKER_04:No, I just how have you Julius is still uh missing in action.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, and I've I've got his uh shedded skin here, and it I looked at it yesterday and it made me feel sad.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, okay. I was I was hoping he would be, you know, back.
SPEAKER_06:No, I I like to think he was survived, but it was a bad time of year for him to escape, so I don't know if he would have made it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Well, now you can get David Hisselhoff.
SPEAKER_06:Yes, David Hisselhoff David, bye.
SPEAKER_02:I'm done.
SPEAKER_00:David Histelhoff.
SPEAKER_04:Well, he has um he had Julius Squeezer.
SPEAKER_00:Jul. Keep going, this is gold.
SPEAKER_06:And uh my big one is called um Histafer, Histopher Snakespear.
SPEAKER_00:Histopher.
SPEAKER_06:Christopher and Histopher.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, I guess I could always give it an Adolf Hister.
SPEAKER_06:Oh yeah, we uh if I could incorporate that somehow I would.
SPEAKER_04:So he was trying to think of Christopher Snake.
SPEAKER_03:Adolf Histoph.
SPEAKER_04:Some other uh snake names, and I was like, oh my god, David h David Hisselhoff. David, Hisselhoff.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god.
SPEAKER_04:Hey, David, David Hasselhoff is very big in Europe.
SPEAKER_02:He's very big in Germany.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, Germany. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It's just look, it's it's gotta be there. Please don't name your snake Histler, Hitler, Histler, whatever. The German with the mustache. Do not name your reptilian pet. I was the third worst person in the world.
SPEAKER_06:That was a joke of mine when I used to walk my dog, and people used to ask his name, and that's what I used to tell him his name was.
SPEAKER_00:Hitler?
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That's pretty good.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, it's good. It's called Hitler.
SPEAKER_02:That's pretty funny though, because it's so because people always go like, oh, what's your dog's name? Steele.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, hi Steele. It goes, oh, what's your name? Oh, hi Hitler.
SPEAKER_06:Okay. Oh, hi Hitler.
SPEAKER_00:Are you shitting me? Like, come on, that's fucking that's comedy gold, man. Oh, that's great. Beautiful. Beautiful.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. I had a puppy once. I took a puppy into the hospital when my dad was there, and I was telling everyone the name was uh Harold Shipman, which is a doctor who killed a lot of people.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's good.
SPEAKER_06:So it's Harold Shipman. Like, oh that's Harold Shipman.
SPEAKER_00:That's funny.
SPEAKER_06:Oh I've got videos of me doing that, actual footage of me doing that.
SPEAKER_02:That's great. This uh shit. We can't tell we can't tell my wife that you make fantastic puns. You can't tell her.
SPEAKER_05:They call me Panocchio.
SPEAKER_02:Punchio. Jesus Christ. Hey Siri, how do you tie a noose? What's the tallest building in my general area? That's too much. That's I think that's the line. I think that's the line.
SPEAKER_04:Well, I think we can wrap this episode up. Um this has been such a great conversation about dragons. I've been looking forward one more. You oh god, go ahead.
SPEAKER_02:But you gotta capitalize the P-U-N. Rapunzel. Man, you'd have a fu man, you know how to fucking blast in my World of Warcraft party. Because that was the one and only rule that we had was that your name had to be fucking hilarious. That's it. And my man, my best friend, he had his druid was Judge Druid. Oh wow, we had we had Mage Windu, because we're Star Wars fans. I think my I think I had one that was Elphus Presley. Um there's a couple of other good ones.
SPEAKER_04:Um my world of Warcraft, um, one of them is uh fart blossom, if that counts.
SPEAKER_02:Fart Blossom. Mine's a smelly taint, if that's her name. Jesus.
SPEAKER_04:I have uh I also have Cat and Crunch. Um I have Alphabet soup and Sugar Biscuit, who is a dwarf.
SPEAKER_02:Sugar Biscuit's a pretty decent one. I think my dwarf was Cold Dwarf. And sort of Cold War? Cold War? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:But you know, it's it was always interesting me showing up, you know, to a to a raid, and people see my name Fart Blossom, and they just I always got really good, really good remarks. Like that. Good feedback.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, good feedback. Good feedback about your fart blossom, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_03:Anywho, thanks for the laughs and the dragons.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, yeah. Thank thanks so much for listening. Um you know, like, share, do all the things. Um Chris, you get to be here for uh a really, really important announcement. Um yeah, we now have um merch available for the silly goose podcast. We have t-shirts, hoodies, um, water bottles, we have stickers. Um so uh we will be posting links um in the description for this episode. There'll be links um to our merch store. Um get your silly goose gear and uh help support us in this podcast journey.
SPEAKER_06:You'll see me with a hoodie, definitely.
SPEAKER_04:Are you gonna get you gonna get the bonk? The bonk hoodie?
SPEAKER_06:I did like that one. Yeah, I did actually like that one. Possibly I'll have I'll I'll I'll I'll make a decision, but yeah, that could be the one.
SPEAKER_04:The best thing that you can do for us is tell your friends about us. Um and Chris, again, you can find Chris on TikTok under JixerChris. Um is there another place that they can find you? Um, or are you just under Jixer Chris? Because do you want to talk about your other account?
SPEAKER_06:Um the other account is Prime Influence Agency. Uh Prime Influence Team is on TikTok as, but it's just uh that's a recruitment agency for anyone who live streams on TikTok and wants to grow their audience or have a bit of account protection. Um yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. So find him on TikTok and come in and and have some fun because we have a lot of fun in Chris's lives. They're they're very unique, and that's all I'll say about that.
SPEAKER_02:That's all that's all okay. Yeah, leave it to the imagination, guys. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Like entice people, yeah. Yeah. Um, so yeah, thanks. Bye.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, thank thanks for having me.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, you're welcome. Anytime you want to come back, we we would love to have you.
SPEAKER_06:Okay, and Kyle.
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